8 Responses to ROLAND IS GOD

1. NoSeRider says:

   January 21, 2012 at 3:33 pm

   [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqN67bSxXVQ]

   Also, the teachings of Roland Young, who made the entire class, including myself, eat grass on our first day of art school. He was communicating to us how we are subservient to authority and took us outside of the classroom to this bed of grass. As we were talking, he told us “rip some grass off the ground.” We did. He then told us to “eat it.” No one budged. He then screamed “EAT IT” and all of us shoved the grass blades into our mouths. Roland taught us the necessity of concept……

   http://howdesign.com/article/youngcreatives/

   Let’s compare and contrast the tales of two terminations at Art Center. That of Roland Young and Rachel Tiede.

   Now, do not get me wrong. I love Roland Young. A “top three” all time teacher in my book. His class follows me everywhere I go today.

   Roland regularly flirted with the boundaries of staying employed for many decades. It was not uncommon to see him remove student work from the walls and dump it in the trash. It was not uncommon to see him show up at a student party with a pretty young girl from his night class. If you were an attractive female student of his, it was not uncommon to get asked out (sometimes more than a few times). It was not uncommon for girls to complain about this line-crossing behavior. Roland lived “on-the-edge” always. And students loved his “no bullshit” simplicity. He was brilliant and tragic at the same time. This was his style for 4 decades. He was a hero and a liability at the same time.

   Rachel Tiede, in contrast, worked at Art Center for 10 years. Followed the rules, and served the school very well. Friend to everyone she worked with. Spends some time away and has a baby. Comes back. Her boss gets fed-up with policy and “falls on his sword” and resigns. She merely has the audacity to comment publicly on the reason behind Nate Young’s departure, and 24 hours later, she is fired.

   It took Roland Young 40 years to get his ass fired (as much as we all loved him). It took Rachel Tiede less than 24 hours.

   Explain that Mr. Koshalek.
   Future of Art Center Blogspot

   Don’t sugar coat it.
2. NoSeRider says:

   January 21, 2012 at 3:39 pm

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqN67bSxXVQ
3. NoSeRider says:

   January 21, 2012 at 4:09 pm

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJyfqeaKU8

   I think these guys enjoyed beating on people. I don’t think it has anything to do with teaching. Hogarth was a nut job too:

   http://liheliso.com/buzz/archive/00000482.htm

   Clowes told a story how the first panel he was ever on was comprised him, Robert Crumb, Gilbert Hernandez, Peter Bagge and Burne Hogarth. Hogarth spent the entire panel yelling at the independent cartoonists on the panel, saying how they were horrible artists.

   “He spent almost an entire hour saying how we were the worst artists who ever lived,” recalled Clowes. “It was an audience full of young, hipster kids who wanted to see Robert Crumb and Crumb was not saying a word because Hogarth was rambling on. People started yelling out, ‘Shut up, old man!’ and finally Crumb just slowly leaned back in his chair and did a pratfall. Hogarth didn’t miss a beat, though, he just kept on going. I literally did not say a word on that panel.”

   “But Hogarth, for sure!” Clowes said bringing the discussion back to the initial match-up. “Hogarth was the real thing.”
   Daniel Clowes and Dan Nadel Interview
4. NoSeRider says:

   January 21, 2012 at 4:23 pm

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSPErFjjtU
5. NoSeRider says:

   January 21, 2012 at 6:53 pm

   I had one professor Leon Parson at Ricks College, the junior college that I trained at before ACCD who was trained at Art Center in the old days. He taught this same way. His goal was to scare out at least half of the class in the first week and hopefully more as the term went on. He tore up work, threw it on the floor, tossed it out the window, made fun of it. He too, was helpful and pleasant in the later terms at school. In one of my last terms there, I was sitting in his office one morning before he was to go upstairs and ‘teach’ the beginning art class. He said it was hard for him to be such a hard ass but felt he would be doing everyone a disservice to not weed people out. He felt he would be to ‘soft’ that day, so I watched him take his cowboy boots off, pour thumbtacks into them, grit his teeth while he pressed his feet down and stomp his way up to classroom.

   I have conflicting views on that whole concept… to say the least. It’s effective but at what cost? He told stories about what Art Center would be like, so I was somewhat prepared. I was told and believed, if I wanted to be serious and get ‘good’, then that’s the way it was done. I’ve seen MANY students run out of classrooms crying. It’s brutal, motivating… in an extremely fearful sort of way, AND by gawd, I worked SO damn hard to minimize the amount of times I’d be belittled on the crit rail. That was really my whole motivation… try not to look bad. Guh!! There’s something missing there in my opinion. It wasn’t so different from some of my home life. I learned what I needed and then got the hell outta there, with zero desire to return.

   I’ve been asked several times to teach and have declined. I will never teach that way. My technique is only to encourage, and optimally support artists spark and passion. I’ll let other people, or life situations do the shredding part . If there is some life lesson in that way that they need then that’s each of our own paths to decide, but that will be a style I will try not to ever participate in. It takes too long to dare to find the joy in creating again when taught this way.

   That’s from a graduate of ACCD graduate of over 20 years ago….a personal correspondence that I edited to keep the identity unknown.

   There’s a generation gap alright. I think it’s for the better. We’re in an age of Post Modernism. The age of Modernism celebrated the machine, and they acted like machines. That teaching method has nothing to do with originality nor cognitive development….it’s just a system, like a machine.
6. NoSeRider says:

   January 21, 2012 at 7:04 pm

   By the way, this is how I draw:
   http://pnhassett.blogspot.com

   I never went to Art Center because I have a facial paralysis. I spent 12 years of being teased by kids. Last thing I needed was to be beaten on by a bunch of bipolar shitheads at a College.

   I probably would have had Burne Hogarth at the time….he sucks anyway, Frank Reilly is better.
7. NoSeRider says:

   January 23, 2012 at 9:32 am

   [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcAVe3RQ9aQ&w=320]

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcAVe3RQ9aQ
8. NoSeRider says:

   January 25, 2012 at 9:16 am

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5aGIWyGNUA

   Just obsessing.